i know jackson had the whole majority rules type thing going but i couldnt find much else. and he did everything he could be preserve the union but can anyone elaborate??
I'd be happy to start with Horace Mann, and you other bloggers should pick up on Garret and Gab's questions.
The Horace Mann quotation at that begins the "Social Reform Era" question reflects Mann's belief that public education was essential for the American democratic experiment to be successful. He believed that a well-informed, critical thinking, and literate society were what the founders had in mind when they left governing in the hands of the people. Like many other social reform movements in the years prior to the American Civil War, many middle class Americans believed that large social issues--like alcohol abuse, slavery, women's rights, poverty, care for the insane--were issues that all of society had a responsibility to tackle. So, in your response, you should tie in Mann's quest to improve American society to those other reform movement's ambitions.
Not necessarily; many of these social reform movements are concurrent. The point that I was trying to make is that they all aimed at improving society, some in very specific ways, others in ways that overlapped. Remember when we talked about how abolitionists wanted Emerson to cruade on their behalf?
ok just tell me where i mess this up. the erie canal brought not only easy passage to(whereever it connected i dont know)but all the people that used it meant that there was a spread of ideas arouund that area right. it mecame a kind of intersection where idea's were passed around.....am i somewhere close to right
Emerson wanted self reliance and the people that followed him wanted him to show them how to do this. They were not sure how self reliant to be and exactly in what way he was speaking this in
jelani- yep you're right and the canal also helped spread diseases, and it let people living near it buy textile products instead of having to make them at home
The erie canal brought connection from the atlantic and hudson to the new territory and established many major cities in the west and also provided he northeast with a great abundance of goods
American system was the nat'l bank, tariffs, and the building of transportation around the country. They would all benefit the country said clay. The tariffs would help build the transportation and the bank would help check on everything else and regulate money and commerce.
You have me a little worried on this American system question.
I assume that someone looked up "American system" because you could only vaguely remember it from class. My assumption is that, when looking it up in the back of your text, or on wikipedia, you discovered that the American system involves using machinery with interchangable parts.
This would be 100% correct.
Now, if you want help answering the question on the exam, I would look up the American system that involved Henry Clay. That's the one I talked about in class.
i remember the american system now! i wrote about it in my andrew jackson essay that is why i was confused. Henry Clay believed US should have protective tariff, strong federal gov't with heavy investment in infastructure( roads and canals)
Okay, so we're getting somewhere with the American System. A couple additional points I would like to make.
A.) I would imagine that many of you may not know the extent of the Erie Canal. Please consult a map in your textbook, and you'll realize that it bisects Upstate New York. This is important to completely answer the question.
B.) The additional question on the exam asks you to compare party politics to machine style politics (Tammany Hall style).
Maggie--I would look at the painting that is on the original post on this blog. It's a big, big hint at the Hudson River School.
I am not publishing many of this posts I'm getting, because they are nearly incoherent.
Let me try to straighten some things out--
Emerson--transcendental thinker.
Jackson--symbol of the common man. We've covered this idea quite a bit, and it has been emphasized in your supplementary readings. The era of the common man not only involves Jackson's assent to the White House, but universal white male suffrage.
Party politics had a platform, votes by campaign, used goals and wants to get voters and machine/tammany hall politics were service oriented and used a personal service issue. Pol. Officers would go to different areas lobbying for support using blackmail and bribery. Whig party would also get bumped from its sit becuz of this.
Katie- its important because it was so a huge development for transportation and we could connect and use the west soo much more. It established so many economic ties.
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Mr. Davis, you had me really scared that I couldn't find the blog!
And can we talk about Horace Mann?
can you explain number 4 since we didn't get to it in class?
the american system was back with Andrew Jackson right?
the american system was henry clay
yay i get to stop pressing refreshh
can we talk about the age of common man?
i know jackson had the whole majority rules type thing going but i couldnt find much else.
and he did everything he could be preserve the union
but can anyone elaborate??
I'd be happy to start with Horace Mann, and you other bloggers should pick up on Garret and Gab's questions.
The Horace Mann quotation at that begins the "Social Reform Era" question reflects Mann's belief that public education was essential for the American democratic experiment to be successful. He believed that a well-informed, critical thinking, and literate society were what the founders had in mind when they left governing in the hands of the people. Like many other social reform movements in the years prior to the American Civil War, many middle class Americans believed that large social issues--like alcohol abuse, slavery, women's rights, poverty, care for the insane--were issues that all of society had a responsibility to tackle. So, in your response, you should tie in Mann's quest to improve American society to those other reform movement's ambitions.
So Mann believed that Americans had to "improve" their education and that helped spark other reforms?
the age of the common man was also about how a "common man" like jackson could rise
I think what he was saying is that in order to have a well functioning democracy, we needed the voting populace to be educated
Not necessarily; many of these social reform movements are concurrent. The point that I was trying to make is that they all aimed at improving society, some in very specific ways, others in ways that overlapped. Remember when we talked about how abolitionists wanted Emerson to cruade on their behalf?
ok just tell me where i mess this up. the erie canal brought not only easy passage to(whereever it connected i dont know)but all the people that used it meant that there was a spread of ideas arouund that area right. it mecame a kind of intersection where idea's were passed around.....am i somewhere close to right
Common man was also a huge jump from upper class voting to low and mid class and more involvment with the society as a whole
No and now I'm confused about how that ties in with "improvability"
and we totally need to cover the american system.
as well as the age of the common man.
any ideas on those?
im not sure if i have the concepts right
Emerson wanted self reliance and the people that followed him wanted him to show them how to do this. They were not sure how self reliant to be and exactly in what way he was speaking this in
jelani- yep you're right and the canal also helped spread diseases, and it let people living near it buy textile products instead of having to make them at home
The erie canal brought connection from the atlantic and hudson to the new territory and established many major cities in the west and also provided he northeast with a great abundance of goods
American system was the nat'l bank, tariffs, and the building of transportation around the country. They would all benefit the country said clay. The tariffs would help build the transportation and the bank would help check on everything else and regulate money and commerce.
You have me a little worried on this American system question.
I assume that someone looked up "American system" because you could only vaguely remember it from class. My assumption is that, when looking it up in the back of your text, or on wikipedia, you discovered that the American system involves using machinery with interchangable parts.
This would be 100% correct.
Now, if you want help answering the question on the exam, I would look up the American system that involved Henry Clay. That's the one I talked about in class.
i remember the american system now! i wrote about it in my andrew jackson essay that is why i was confused. Henry Clay believed US should have protective tariff, strong federal gov't with heavy investment in infastructure( roads and canals)
so Clay = opposite from Jackson basically....
ok and i understand why Emerson was important..but the Hudson River School?
Okay, so we're getting somewhere with the American System. A couple additional points I would like to make.
A.) I would imagine that many of you may not know the extent of the Erie Canal. Please consult a map in your textbook, and you'll realize that it bisects Upstate New York. This is important to completely answer the question.
B.) The additional question on the exam asks you to compare party politics to machine style politics (Tammany Hall style).
Maggie--I would look at the painting that is on the original post on this blog. It's a big, big hint at the Hudson River School.
I am not publishing many of this posts I'm getting, because they are nearly incoherent.
Let me try to straighten some things out--
Emerson--transcendental thinker.
Jackson--symbol of the common man. We've covered this idea quite a bit, and it has been emphasized in your supplementary readings. The era of the common man not only involves Jackson's assent to the White House, but universal white male suffrage.
Why is it important that the Erie Canal bisects NY? And what additional question?
Party politics had a platform, votes by campaign, used goals and wants to get voters and machine/tammany hall politics were service oriented and used a personal service issue. Pol. Officers would go to different areas lobbying for support using blackmail and bribery. Whig party would also get bumped from its sit becuz of this.
alright the hudson scool is what? and i assume womanhood means the traditional womans roles or is it the new form of the empowered woman?
Katie- its important because it was so a huge development for transportation and we could connect and use the west soo much more. It established so many economic ties.
I looked at the painting...and the only thing I can think of is that it demonstrates the impact nature had on the transcendentalists?
Signing off.
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